Introduction
Step-by-step Method for Witnessing
to the Jehovah's Witnesses
by Jay Hess (friend@biblicalanswers.net)
919-989-9495
or
107 North Lakeside Dr.
Smithfield, NC 27577
This witnessing material is composed primarily of photocopies of documents
authored by the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, the legal corporation
for the Jehovah's Witnesses. Along with these are included questions that
pertain to each document. The intent of these questions is to enable you
to find out from any J-W if he believes God's standards of righteousness
change over time or change for important religious people.
Four areas of God's standards of righteousness are examined:
1) God's standards on seeking information from spirit-mediums and demons.
2) God's standards on idolatry and worshiping angels.
3) God's standards on restricting united public worship.
4) God's standards on admiring the political wild beast described in
the book of Revelation.
In order to learn for certain from the J-Ws if they think God's standards
have changed between one time and another, it is necessary to ask them
about two events: first, a biblical example where God's standard was violated
and, second, another similar example in the twentieth-century.
Then after each subject is discussed the J-Ws are asked these questions:
Did God's standards of righteousness change?
Did God approve of the persons in the biblical example?
Did God approve of the persons in the twentieth century as worthy to
enter heaven?
Did God accept their worship as being part of true worship?
The J-Ws will likely tell you God did not approve of those persons sited
in the biblical example. However when they examine the twentieth-century
example, two answers are possible. Some J-Ws will respond that God's standards
in the four areas do not change. But those wishing to keep their membership
in their church will feel pressured to say God approved of the persons
in the second example, even for entrance into heaven. These will water-down
God's standards of righteousness and in essence accuse God of saying what
was once bad is now good and what was once good is now bad.
But note how the J-W's New World Translation at Isaiah 5:20 reads:
"Woe to those who are saying that good is bad and bad is good,
those who are putting darkness for light and light for darkness, those
who are putting bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter!"
It is crucial to understand what the purpose of this material is NOT.
This is NOT about whether the beliefs of Jehovah's Witnesses
have changed. This is about whether God's beliefs have changed.
This is NOT asking the J-Ws about what they believed years
ago. This is about learning what they believe today. The photocopies do
mention what some religious persons did years ago but there is no interest
in what those persons believed at that time. Instead you want to know what
they say God believed at that time. Does God approve of persons who do
such things and does He accept them into heaven? If God did not approve
of the persons in the biblical example, did His standards later change
so He could approve of such persons in modern times?
This is NOT trying to criticize the persons involved in
the twentieth century examples. It is acknowledged these persons may have
had good motives and even sincerely believed what they were doing was right.
These persons are examined only to provide a realistic basis for asking
‘Do God's standards of righteousness and worship change?'
This material is NOT asking if the J-Ws have ever made
mistakes. Everyone makes mistakes, every religious group makes mistakes
and the Jehovah's Witnesses know they are not perfect. Some Jehovah's Witnesses
believe past members have made mistakes, but that is their decision. You
should avoid drawing attention to mistakes and focus on what the Jehovah's
Witnesses currently believe about who God approves and those who God accepts
into heaven.
This material is NOT asking if God allows mistakes, obviously
He does.
This material is NOT asking if God can forgive those who
make mistakes, God can.
So again, this is not asking Did someone make a mistake?, nor is
it asking Did God forgive?, rather it is asking Did God approve?
As an illustration, consider the event where John fell down before an angel
to worship him (Revelation 19:10; 22:8, 9). Admittedly John made a mistake.
Even though he was a chosen vessel of God and had good motives, he was
not infallible. It could also be said he had ‘less light' and lacked an
understanding of true and proper worship. There is nothing to gain by focusing
on his error but rather we use his example to learn what God approves.
Did God approve of what John did? Would He approve of such today? Each
person can decide. But how a person answers these questions reveals what
that person believes about God's standards of righteousness and whether
God changes those standards over time.
Teaching Notes
J-Ws accept religious instruction only from representatives of the Watchtower
Society. There is no point in ever presenting any doctrinal views to them.
You must adopt the attitude of an interviewer just wishing to get information.
Until you have asked the J-Ws about all the four issues mentioned above,
you
will not present any of your own beliefs nor say anything critical of their
beliefs.
J-Ws do not read any religious literature published by anyone other
than their religious directors. They are also not accustomed to receiving
literature from anyone but representatives of their church. Therefore,
never present any non-J-W religious literature. J-Ws also get nervous if
someone uses original copies of their own literature to show them something.
Since it would take effort to obtain such literature, they conclude that
if you went to that much work, you must have done all this research yourself
and are determined to be the teacher and prove something to them. I recommend
using only photocopies but do not present them to the J-Ws until they
ask you to do so. Photocopies do make them a little nervous, and the
arrows on the enclosed copies will add to their nervousness. However, you
can tell them you did not do the research to produce them nor did you put
the arrows there. I recommend you photocopy the enclosed materials in case
they wish to take a copy to investigate their accuracy. If they take your
copies, they may accidentally lose them. (If you re-copy the materials
and choose to remove the arrows, you may wish to hilight the key words
in yellow or become very familiar with them.)
The questions provided in this material are primarily looking for Yes
or No answers. Avoid asking questions requiring long answers to
Why
. . .? Your first goal is to find out what they believe. Finding out
why
they believe something can come later. If you get an answer that is not
a Yes or a No and sounds more like an answer to Why .
. .? you can ask: So does that mean ‘Yes' or ‘No'?
If during your discussions the J-Ws say something that sounds preposterous,
simply remark this is a new thought to you and will think about it and
reserve commenting on it until some future time.
There will be times in your discussions with the J-Ws when you will
use the Bible. I strongly recommend you initially use only the New
Jerusalem Bible. This uses the Hebrew name "Yahweh" for God's name
everywhere it belongs in the Old Testament. The paperback edition can be
gotten for a very low cost from the American Bible Society (phone = 1-800-322-4253).
Questions The J-Ws Are Allowed To Answer
The first photocopy (March
15, 1986 Watchtower pages 13-14) shows although J-Ws
are required to avoid reading literature critical of their religious directors,
they are allowed to answer questions that sound similar to those raised
by critics. However the person asking the question must be sincere and
not critical. Further, the subjects discussed should be few (you will only
discuss four: spiritism, worship of angels, united true worship, admiration
of the wild beast of Revelation). The J-W is then allowed to answer the
questions and use their own literature in the process.
The Basis For Discussing The Four Subjects
The next few photocopies are from the a book called Knowledge That Leads
To Everlasting Life (1995), a key publication of the Jehovah's Witnesses
as it is used for discipling all new converts. This photocopy is from chapter
5 Whose Worship Does God Accept? (paragraphs
6 through 16 on pages 46-50). By going over this material you set
the stage to ask them whether God's standards change and whether He accepts
the worship of those who seek messages from demons, worship angels, restrict
united public worship, or admire the political wild beast of Revelation.
It is easy to acquire a copy of this book. When you next see the J-W
say this:
I respect
the zeal you show in your ministry and I wish more Christians would show
such zeal and commitment. However because of some things I have read about
your church, things that sound very odd, I would need a very good explanation
before I would consider any lengthy discussions with you.[The
J-Ws will likely pursue this and ask you to explain.]
I have read some things about your church's teachings and I found them
to be very disturbing. The articles gave me the impression you believe
God changes His standards of righteousness on such issues as spiritism
and idolatry. I could never join a church that says God's standards change
on such serious issues. Does not Galatians 5 say spiritism and idolatry
will keep one out of the kingdom (see verses 19-21)?
[They will probably deny their church says God's standards change.]
If they ask for more specific information on what you read, say:
I read somewhere you believe back in
Bible times God disapproved of those who consulted spirit-mediums and those
who worshiped angels. However those articles I read imply you also teach
God has approved of those who in modern times did such things. I thought
this sounded odd to me and it prevents me from being interested in your
religion.
When they react and deny they believe such things, say:
I hope you are being completely honest
with me. Do you have any official literature from your church that explains
in detail your doctrines on such things as spiritism and idolatry and plainly
shows what you believe on God's standards and whether His standards ever
change?
They will likely offer you their book Knowledge That Leads To Everlasting
Life. Accept the book but explain until your questions are resolved
you would not feel comfortable donating for it. Say you will look over
the book to see what it has to say about your concerns. Get a phone number
and invite them to return to your home in a couple of weeks at a specific
time to discuss the book and the answers to your concerns.
In their book, read chapter 5 entitled Whose Worship Does God Accept?
Study paragraphs 1 through 16 and attempt to answer the questions printed
at the bottom of each page corresponding to each paragraph. Note paragraph
13 speaks about paying attention to demons, paragraph 14 speaks about worshiping
angels and paragraph 16 mentions "the principle of neutrality toward this
world's affairs" (referring to politics). At the top of page 51 circle
the words "Whose Worship." In the margin next to paragraph 13 write in
ink these words: "Pastor approved book: Angels & Women." Next
to paragraphs 14 and 15 write: "charter approves worshiping archangel."
At the bottom of the page, next to the question for paragraphs 14 and 15,
write: "stopped public prayer — Daniel 6." On the next page, next
to paragraph 16, write: "admired political League of Nations — Revelation
13:3; 17:8."
Next, in this material, are three sections containing photocopies addressing
the four topics just mentioned. Study these photocopies. Next, note at
the end, in the conclusion, is another photocopy (or two). Place all these
photocopies in a plain unmarked envelope and put it in a bookcase or some
other place where it is accessible but out of reach so it does not appear
as though it is read frequently. Make sure the copies are in the right
order to correspond to the following presentation.
When the J-Ws return say this:
I looked through your book and was pleased
to find chapter 5 addressed my concerns about God's standards of righteousness.
It also explained your stand on spiritism and idolatry. If I understood
what it said, I agree with most of what I found there. But I still wonder
if I might have misunderstood what it said because the things I read before
in other articles suggest you believe God has occasionally approved of
persons who consulted spirit mediums or worshiped angels. I would need
to be absolutely sure I understood chapter 5 and you truly believe it yourself
before I would get more involved with your church. Would you be willing
to discuss this chapter with me?
Although they prefer to start with chapter 1, they will probably agree.
If they insist on starting with chapter 1 say this:
This chapter 5 is a major issue for
me and if it turns out I misunderstood what it said and you really do believe
God has occasionally approved of persons who consulted spirit mediums or
worshiped angels, then there would be no point for me to talk with you
or study anything else. I am not the least bit interested in a group that
says God has ever approved of consulting spirit-mediums. So, if you will
not study chapter 5 with me then that would tell me maybe you really do
teach God approved of such things. Does studying chapter 5 before chapter
1 break some church rule?
Usually they will agree to this slight change in plans. They then offer
to meet with you for an hour or so each week and study chapter 5. They
will read each paragraph and ask the questions printed at the bottom of
each page. You are then expected to answer the questions by putting the
book's thoughts into your own words. As you study with them in paragraphs
1 through 16 of chapter 5, incorporate these suggested statements and questions:
Paragraphs 6 and 7:
This paragraph shows where Jesus foretold
some religious persons will make the excuse that even though their worship
was contaminated they were doing powerful works and should be allowed into
heaven. But Jesus shows even if they were the only ones doing those powerful
works, their worship was not acceptable. Later in this chapter 5 it mentions
idolatry and paying attention to teachings of demons contaminate pure worship.
I want to make sure I understand what you believe about this. If a person
engages in these practices, even just a little, but they are also doing
powerful Christian works, would God reject their worship? Suppose, for
example, a person in your church who did more works than anyone else but
also had contaminated worship, would God overlook that and approve of him
because he was a member? I need to know if you believe Jesus makes exceptions
and if they would be accepted into heaven.
Paragraph 8:
I know some people believe if you are
sincere and have the right motives, their worship will still be approved
even if they do not know God's basic standards of righteousness. But this
paragraph seems to say this excuse will not get them into heaven. Again,
I am posing different questions to see if you believe there may be exceptions.
What if a person had less of God's light and mixed idolatry with true worship?
Do you believe it would be possible for God to approve of his worship and
let him into heaven?
Paragraph 9:
This tells me involvement with demons
pollutes one's worship. Do you believe this in all cases or could there
be any exceptions where God would still approve of someone seeking messages
from demons?
Paragraph 10:
This again says impurities make worship
unacceptable to God. To me it would seem if one believed God's standards
of righteousness change, then that would mean some impurities are now all
right and God now approves of things that were once bad. Does this seem
reasonable?. . . I came across Isaiah 5:20 and wondered what you feel it
means.
The First Section
— On Spiritism
When you get to paragraph
13 say:
The Pharisees may have been sincere but they
were wrong. They had blindly accepted the beliefs handed to them. They
should have examined what they were taught and made certain of what was
true. Therefore I should be certain the things I am doing meet with
God's approval. I should thoroughly examine my worship to see if what I
am doing or believing makes my worship unacceptable. It also says I should
be cautious of beliefs handed to me by others. That is what I am trying
to do and I hope you do not mind if I examine the beliefs you are handing
to me or if I ask questions to clarify this paragraph.
The paragraph mentions the warning at First
Timothy 4:1 about people being mislead by paying attention to the teachings
of demons. From the title of this chapter — "Whose Worship Does God Accept?"
— I concluded this paragraph was saying anyone who sought information from
a spirit-medium was not giving acceptable worship to God even if they had
partial truth and good motives. Is that what this is saying? I ask this
because I had read an article some time ago and got the clear impression
your church taught God had approved of folks who sought messages from a
spirit-medium. So naturally I hesitated to study with you. I hope you understand
why I hesitated. If you had heard of a church that believed God occasionally
approved of consulting demons would you not have been cautious too? I was
worried my next few questions might upset you because I wanted to ask about
these stories I had heard. I hope you do not mind but I need to be absolutely
certain you do not think God even occasionally approves of consulting spirit-mediums.
Would that be all right?
I would like to ask about two events where
someone consulted a spirit-medium, one biblical example and one more modern,
in order to be assured you do not believe God approved of it nor do you
feel God changed His mind. What do you think about First Samuel 28:7-19?
There it says King Saul went to a spirit-medium seeking information. I
realize he may have had good motives and did not have the light of God's
word we have today, but did that excuse what he did? Did God approve of
him? Was his worship acceptable to God? . . . [The J-W then
answers God did not approve.]
My second question deals with a more modern
event. I read an article that described a pastor who found a book dictated
by a demon to a spirit-medium. The pastor liked the book and wanted to
distribute it to his church and others as Christmas gifts. As I recall,
the article telling about this pastor was published in your literature.
I got the impression from it your church felt God's standards had changed
and He now approved of those involved. I tried my best to understand what
your church said in the article but it still seems to say God's standards
must have changed. Do you think I misunderstood the article?
[This will likely cause the J-Ws to be curious about the article and offer
to help you understand its meaning. Mention you read about this in a photocopy
of what appeared to be their literature. Wait until they ask to see
the photocopy and then go get the envelope show them. Pull out just
the first piece of paper.]
I received this article from somewhere.
[hand
them the photocopies] It appears as if
this originally came from your church publications. Would you like me to
check my records to find out who photocopied this so you could contact
them to learn more about this story? [They will likely say ‘No'
and not later ask where the copies came from.]
Have the J-W read the two sides of the paper, especially where the arrows
are pointing. You then add these remarks:
(July 30, 1924
The
Golden Age, page 702)
I got the impression this was from your church.
Do you know if the "Golden Age" is from your church? . . . Here is a review
of a book called "Angels and Women". It seems to have been recommended
by a Pastor by the name of Russell. Then it says the book is beneficial
because it throws light on certain Biblical subjects. It was published
by a friend of Russell. Then it mentions how to get a discount by buying
it in lots of ten or more.
(Forward to
the book "Angels and Women" pages 4, 5)
This appears to be the foreword to the
book "Angels and Women" and says the reviser of this book is of the opinion
that the original manuscript was dictated to the spirit-medium by a demon
desiring to return to divine favor. It further says the intent is to help
readers get a better understanding of demon influences. Does this mean
it is alright to read spiritistic material if it came from a demon wanting
to return to God?
Next:
(December 3,
1924, The Golden Age, pages 150, 151)
This next "Golden Age" says this book was
dictated by a demon. Then a person asks — since your church was able to
get a discount when buying 10 or more, would it be a good idea to give
them away as Christmas gifts? In the reply it claims the book was in harmony
with the Bible and Pastor Russell supervised his close friend in revising
the book and publishing it. So this friend went into marketing the book.
This article recommended it, said it helped one to better understand the
devil's organization and many have derived benefit from reading it. Do
you see why this sounded to me like it was suggesting God approved of what
these persons did? That would mean God's standards have changed since the
time of King Saul. I wondered if you now feel if a demon's message is true
then it is alright to distribute that message. Is this not what the Bible
calls paying attention to demon inspired messages, something God does not
approve? So from reading paragraph 13 in your book, what should I conclude
about whether God accepted the worship of these persons or not?
If I ever wanted to become a member
in your church would I be required to believe distributing this book "Angels
and Women" was good and beneficial? I ask this because I want to be careful
not to violate Isaiah 5:20 which warns about saying bad things are good.
After considering this and any of the other three subjects the J-Ws will
always give one or more excuses. The most common are listed below. You
will need to be familiar with the appropriate response :
Excuse 1: This could not be our
literature. It looks like someone has put this together to make us look
bad.
Reply: I
did not see the original so I will not say this is accurate and true. If
this is a fake then someone is trying to deceive me. How can I know if
this is false? Is there someone I can ask or some way I can find out? .
. . Even if it is fake, I still want to know what you believe about whether
God has ever approved of such things, either this event or any other like
it. Do you believe God would have approved of this if it had happened?
Excuse 2: These persons had less
of God's light and the light has since gotten brighter as stated in Proverbs
4:18.
Reply: How
does that answer whether God approved of them or not? Are you saying this
because they had less of God's light and He expected less and therefore
approved of them? I recall you said back in paragraph 8 you believed this
was an empty excuse. Does this mean you actually do believe the less you
know, the less God expects?
Excuse 3: No one is perfect. Everyone
makes mistakes. Why are you picking on their mistakes?
Reply:I
know everyone makes mistakes and all the faithful biblical prophets made
mistakes. But I am not trying to pick on anyone or judge them. I am not
asking about these persons as much as I am asking what you believe about
God and His judgments. My faith in God has nothing to do with whether these
persons made a mistake or not. But my faith would be affected if I believed
God's standards change. I am only trying to do as your book says. I need
to be certain the form of worship you are handing me is acceptable to God.
The title of the chapter is "Whose Worship Does God Accept?" And I am asking
you, in this case, whose worship did God accept? Did He approve of these
persons or not?
Excuse 4: Who else was doing God's
will and good works? God must have approved of them, otherwise He would
not have blessed them.
Reply: I
recall an occasion where Moses did wrong by striking the rock twice with
his staff and thus drew attention to himself instead of God (Numbers 20:7-12,
24; 27:14). God still blessed the assembly by bringing forth water but
He did not approve of Moses. So God even blesses those he disapproves.
Also, when we studied paragraphs 6 and 7 in this
chapter, I remember we talked about those who said to Jesus they did many
powerful works in his name. But according to those paragraphs Jesus rejected
them because their worship was contaminated. I thought you agreed with
that. So if someone has admired the wild beast, distributed messages from
demons, and worshiped an angel, does Jesus approve of them because they
have done many powerful works?
Excuse 5: God did not approve of the persons in the biblical
example, but He did approve of these persons in the twentieth-century example.
He just did not approve of what they did.
Reply: I am confused on why
God approved of the persons in the twentieth-century example but did not
approve of those in the biblical example. The title of the chapter asks
"Whose worship does God accept?" not "What worship." So it is asking about
"who," a person, not a "what." Is this paragraph answering this question?
It sounded to me like it was saying God does not accept the worship of
the persons who do the things described in this paragraph. So my question
is the same. Who does God approve and whose worship does God accept? Did
God accept those persons who payed attention to the teachings of demons
and did God accept their worship as part of true worship?
The Second Section —
On United True Worship (two photocopies)
When you get to paragraphs
14 and 15 in the Knowledge book say this:
This paragraph shows how I need to be careful,
otherwise I might do something unacceptable to God. A couple issues are
mentioned here. One is customs that are unacceptable to God, the other
is idolatry, specifically, worship of an angel.
I had heard that you believe celebrating
Christmas and birthdays is unacceptable to God. Is that right? [Let
the J-W answer.] Then have God's standards
changed on this? . . . I guess that means these persons that wanted to
distribute the book "Angels and Women" for Christmas and birthdays were
disapproved by God. Is that what you mean?
On the second issue, the example here
shows even worshiping an angel of God is idolatry and would contaminate
pure worship. I noticed in reading ahead in paragraph 21 it says God "is
worthy of the purest form of worship and accepts nothing less than exclusive
devotion." When John worshiped this angel in Revelation 19:10, was this
idolatry? From the title of this chapter "Whose Worship Does God Accept?"
I wondered if your book was saying God did not accept John's worship as
part of true worship. If God did not accept his worship, do you believe
others might be more fortunate and for some reason God might accept their
worship of an angel? [The J-W then answers
God did not approve.]
I ask this because I had read another
article and got the clear impression your church taught God had approved
of folks who worshiped an angel. I would like to ask about that story so
I can be certain of what you believe. As the end of paragraph 15 says,
"keep on making sure of what is acceptable to the Lord" Would you be upset
if I keep on making sure of what you are telling me is acceptable to God?
I read an article that described some
persons who worshiped an archangel just as they worshiped God. Like the
other article I got the impression your church was implying these persons
were approved by God and their worship was acceptable to Him. I also got
the feeling your church holds the view these persons were approved enough
to go to heaven. Could I have misunderstood the article? Please know that
I am not criticizing them for this and I am not trying to tell you they
made a mistake or they did not. I just want to be sure I understand your
church's teachings on true worship and whether God accepts angel-worship
as part of true worship or whether He views it as idolatry. I hope this
is not upsetting but I tried my best to understand what your church said
in the article but it still seems to say God's standards must have changed.
Do you think I misunderstood the article or is it possible your church
does teach God's standards change?[By
now the J-Ws are probably curious enough to ask you to bring out the photocopy.
If they do not, peek inside the envelope and say . . .]
This says many years ago your church
had a charter that said your church's purpose was to worship both God and
Jesus. But this says you also believe Jesus is the arch-angel Michael.
Now I imagine your charter could have changed but I got the impression
your church still believes God approved of this as part of true worship
and it was not idolatry. So is this saying you do believe God's standards
change or not?
Pull out just one piece of paper and have the J-W read both sides, especially
where the arrows are pointing. You then add these remarks:
Here are several articles. . . .
(April
15, 1995 The Watchtower page 18:)
This one says God's standards do not
change, especially on idolatry.
(Theocratic
Ministry School Schedule for 1990
page 4 for March 19 and April 16)
This says you believe Jesus is Michael
the archangel and he is not to be worshiped — is that what you believe
today? Does this mean worshiping Michael would be false worship and idolatry?
— I am not trying to persuade you of anything and I am not yet asking why
you believe this, I am only asking what you believe to be certain I understand
your views on what is acceptable to God as true worship.
(1945
Yearbook of Jehovah's Witnesses,
title page and page 32)
This says there was a church charter
and the purpose of the church was to worship God and Jesus, whom you believe
was an archangel. So would this be an exception where God would approve
of angel worship and accept it as part of true worship for some reason?
Or was this idolatry?
Next:
(Reasoning from
the Scriptures 1985, 1989, page 202)
This has a quote from the charter. Since
this book quoted it in 1989, could there be a more recent version of this
charter or is the 1945 charter still considered current? Did you get a
copy of the charter when you joined your church?
(September 1 &
15 1893 Zion's Watch Tower, pages 1580 & 1581 in the reprints
= pages 280-284 in the original magazine):
This next page is taken from the 1893
Watch Tower. Under the section "Our Chicago Convention" it seems to say
your church's original position was Michael and his Father were to be worshiped
equally. Was that your original position? But your belief today is bowing
in worship to an angel is idolatry and is therefore wrong. Isn't that what
you believe? . . . I wondered if your church still said God approved of
these persons who worshiped Michael even though it was idolatry. Does it?
(August 15,
1941 The Watchtower page 252)
This article says all the earth shall
worship the Son, you would say Michael, as he worships the Father. When
I compared paragraph 14 in the Knowledge book I asked myself the same question
as the chapter, "Whose worship does God accept?" Do you today believe God
accepted the worship of these persons or not? Did he view them as true
worshipers, approved for entrance into heaven or not?
(Make Sure
Of All Things, 1953, page 85)
Then in 1953 in this heading it says
Christ is to be worshiped. I assume this book is saying he was to be worshiped
as an angel, not as the one true God. Right?
So I am trying to understand the full
meaning of paragraph 14 in your Knowledge book. Does worshiping an angel
cause one's worship to be contaminated? Does this mean during the years
your church taught Michael was to be worshiped, God considered them to
be approved as true worshipers because God's standards on worship do changed
or were they disapproved by God? Were they approved for entrance into heaven?
If I ever wanted to become a member in
your church would I be required to believe worshiping Michael as stated
in the charter was good and beneficial? I want to be careful not to violate
Isaiah 5:20 which warns about saying bad things are good.
Daniel and Prayer
Next continue by saying this:
Since this chapter is about acceptable worship
and I wanted to make sure of just what is acceptable to God, now is the
right time for me to ask about one more issue. It is about God's people
being united in worship and whether God strongly desires that or not. I
would like your thoughts on two events, first a biblical event and then
a modern one.
In Daniel 6:7, 10, 11, 16 it describes
how some ancient authorities made a rule that God's people were not to
pray publicly to God for 30 days. Daniel could have kept his prayers and
worship secret but he did not and he knew he was risking his life. For
this Daniel was thrown into a lion's den. From this story I concluded at
that time God approved of Daniel for resisting the rule restricting public
prayer and disapproved of those who made the rule. Is that how God's standards
were at that time?
My next question deals with a similar
modern event. In another article I read how someone made a rule restricting
public prayer and worship in modern times. Apparently for 46 years all
Jehovah's Witnesses in one country were forbidden to pray publicly and
were not to ever appear like they were worshiping God. But I got the impression
your church's view was those who made the rule were approved by God because
God's standards on united true worship have changed since Daniel's time.
Do you think I might have misunderstood the article or what? Could you
help me understand the article?
Next consider these and say:
(August 15, 1970 The
Watchtower, page 493, paragraph 16)
This has to do with Daniel and how he carried
on true worship. A law was established saying he could no longer pray according
to his custom. While he could have chosen to pray in secret, he did not.
He disobeyed those who told him to stop and risked his life to continue
public prayer. To me public prayer is a vital part of true worship and
no one has the right to tell me to stop. What is your view today?
(June 15, 1990 The
Watchtower page 28)
This statement has to do with the same subject
of what worship is and how important it is. It says song and prayer at
meetings are an important part of united worship.
(October 15, 1979
The Watchtower, page 20, paragraphs 7 and 8)
This appeared to say the same thing. Your
church does not stop their customary worship just because someone wants
to restrict them. It further mentions the example of Daniel and how he
would not stop his public worship for anyone or any reason. Then it says
faithful members of your church do not stop their public worship either.
I assumed from this if the government allowed you to engage in public worship
but a member chose not to, then that member would be considered unfaithful.
But when I looked at the next page I figured I must be misunderstanding
this whole issue of what united worship is and if it is important.
Then:
(1995 Yearbook pages
212, 213, 232, 233)
This seems to say even though your church
could meet freely for worship and prayer, someone known as the "Society"
wanted to convince the Mexican government you were not a religion so it
could hold educational meetings in public buildings. To do this they gave
a directive, just like the one given to Daniel, that all members could
pray in private but not publicly. They also had to stop singing praises
to God and stop using the Bible in their ministry. Their meetings were
not to be religious but only educational. This was only in Mexico so they
were not united with the rest of the church in the aspect of worship.
The next part says for 46 years until 1989
your church continued to be known in Mexico as a civil organization and
not as a religious one. Then they changed and decided to be known again
as an organization that worships and prays. The church directors then allowed
your members to pray publicly and to sing again.
I am not criticizing nor am I telling you
they made a mistake, I am only asking the same question this chapter is
asking "Whose worship does God accept?" Did God approve of those who made
this rule that all members must stop their public prayers and worshipful
appearance? If some had acted like Daniel and continued their public prayers
and worship, would God have approved of them or had God's standards changed?
If I ever wanted to become a member
in your church would I be required to believe stopping prayer for 46 years
was good and beneficial? I want to be careful not to violate Isaiah 5:20
which warns about saying bad things are good.
The Third Section
On Political Neutrality
When you get to paragraph
16 say:
If a custom truly violates God's principles
then I can see it would be wrong and would not be approved by God. So I
suppose if someone were to practice the religious custom of exchanging
wedding rings and did it because of its ancient ties to pagan religion,
then it would be wrong. I guess it depends on why one does it. Right?
But the issue that caught my attention
is here in this paragraph where it mentions being neutral towards governments.
I want to be sure of what you meant by "neutrality" and what God finds
acceptable. For example, I have heard many people believe the "wild beast"
mentioned in Revelation chapter 13 is a political entity. If that is true,
then I would have thought God does not approve of those who admire the
wild beast. I have read a few things supposedly telling about your church's
stand on this issue and I am not sure I have it right or maybe I just do
not understand. What I concluded was you believe God's standards on this
have changed and sometimes God approves of those who admire the wild beast.
Is that what you really believe? [Let the J-W comment on this.]
Because I want to be absolutely sure I understand,
I would like to ask about two situations where someone admired the political
wild beast and please tell me whether you believe God approved of them
or not.
The first example is about the people foretold
in Revelation 13:3 and 17:8. Does God accept the worship of these persons?
I did not think so but I am not trying to tell you what to believe. What
if these admirers had less of God's light and did not fully realize this
political entity was really the wild beast of Revelation? Would that excuse
them so they would still be approved by God for entrance into heaven? From
the title of this chapter "Whose Worship Does God Accept?" I guessed your
book was saying God did not accept their worship. [Let them
comment.]
My second example is a more modern example.
I had read your church teaches the wild beast of Revelation was the League
of Nations. But I also got the impression you now teach God approved of
some of the people who admired the League and they were accepted into heaven.
Could I have misunderstood the article? Please know I am not criticizing
them for this and I am not trying to tell you they made a mistake or they
did not. I just want to be sure I understand your church's teachings on
true worship and whose worship God accepts. I hope this is not upsetting
but I tried my best to understand what your church said in the article
but it still seems to say God's standards must have changed.
Then pull out the next piece of paper.
(August 1, 1967 The
Watchtower page 454)
I have heard of the wild beast and I think
this is saying the League of Nations and the United Nations together form
that beast. True? Then this seems to be speaking about true Christians
and how they have not been marked in the head for supporting the League
of Nations in either thought or word. They have been without spot. Does
this mean those who supported the beast in either thought or word received
the mark of the beast? . . . This article added that true Christians took
the course exactly opposite to what the religious institutions of the world
have done. My question is — When this talks about Christians who did not
support the League of Nations in either thought or word, who is this talking
about? I thought just about all churches gave some kind of support or admiration
to the League of Nations when it was first proposed, including yours.
(June 1, 1994 The Watchtower,
page 12, paragraph 17)
I think I understand most of what is on this
page but I wanted to be certain. This article discusses how churches have
been involved in politics. Does this paragraph mean if a religion supported
political institutions in any way at all then a person interested in true
worship should completely break ties with it, even if one has friends
in the church and has learned a lot from them?
(September 15, 1971
The Watchtower page 560, paragraph 8)
This tells of churches attributing prophetic
acts of God's kingdom to the League of Nations. Then it said your church
consistently exposed the League for what it was, a disgusting thing. But
if all churches admired the League when it was first proposed, then does
this mean your church only admired the League for a time and then consistently
exposed it? Is that what this means?
(October 1, 1983 The
Watchtower pages 15 and 16, paragraph 9)
This paragraph quotes Revelation 17:8 and
says the admirers of the image of the wild beast will suffer destruction.
But what if a church only admired the wild beast for a short time? Could
it get the mark of the beast removed and not suffer destruction?
Then:
(February 15, 1919 The Watch Tower page 51) (readable
version and the printable
version).
The second paragraph starts out by saying
your church could not help but admire the high principles embodied in the
League of Nations. It goes on to mention how wonderful its goals were and
lists them. Then the last part says what the League was proposing to do
was the same as what God's kingdom would do on earth after the great time
of trouble. I wondered from this if your church felt the persons who admired
the League were an exception and were approved by God because God's standards
change.
(Also of interest are these three Watch Towers
that show the Watchtower Society encouraged readers to buy war bonds to
help with the World War 1 debt. (Printable: May
15, 1918 Watch Tower, June
1, 1918 Watch Tower, March
1, 1919 Watch Tower).
If I ever wanted to become a member in your
church would I be required to believe admiring the League of Nations was
good and beneficial? I want to be careful not to violate Isaiah 5:20 which
warns about saying bad things are good.
Conclusion
The Final Questions
It is important you understand the wording of the questions in this material
and what is being asked and what is irrelevant. You are NOT asking
if the J-Ws still do these things (they don't). You are NOT asking
if what their directors taught is still considered correct doctrine (it
isn't). You are NOT asking if they still think these things are
approved by God (they don't). You are NOT asking if God approves
of persons who do these things today (they say He does not). You
are NOT asking if God forgave the religious directors for doing
these things (they say He did). You are asking only if God approved of
their directors at the time they did these things and if they were
approved for entry into heaven.
After presenting all four sections, pull out the next photocopy
which includes their Live Forever book
(pages 124,125) and the November 15, 1980 Watchtower
pages 16,17
More than all the previous articles, this
last page seemed to be the strongest in giving me the impression your church
teaches God's standards must have changed and God has approved of persons
who sought messages from spirit-mediums or who worshiped Michael or who
admired the wild beast. For here it says the church teachers who did these
things were tried, tested and found to be faithful and qualified to go
to heaven. They claim to have had a righteous standing before God ever
since 1919 and have been kept in an approved state. Yet because they worshiped
Michael from 1919 until 1953 and stopped public prayer in Mexico from 1946
until 1989 I wonder if they could have been approved at any time during
this period.
Then read:
In paragraphs 15 and 18 it is talking about
the same time period as when the book "Angels and Women" was in the process
of being published. It is also the time when your church was worshiping
Michael equally to God and admiring the League of Nations. But the article
gives the impression whatever they were teaching with regard to spiritism,
political neutrality and true worship had God's approval.
and then ask this final question:
If I conclude from reading your Knowledge
book in chapter 5 those who did these things could not have been tried
and faithful, and therefore were not kept in an approved state and did
not go to heaven, would God approve of my belief? Would my worship be acceptable
to God?
Their answer to this will tell you if the J-Ws are firm for God's unchanging
standards of righteousness as described in their own literature. They may
choose to be loyal to God and thus deny the Watchtower's fundamental doctrine
of the "slave who has been faithful and discreet since 1919." This would
result in the loss of their church membership. Their other choice would
be to put the standards of men ahead of God so as to keep their membership.
Thus they accuse God of approving of the deeds performed by the Watchtower
directors. Anyone who asserts God approves of sin would not be happy in
the conservative Christian community where God's word is the final unchanging
authority and God's righteous standards on spiritism and idolatry do not
change. There is no point in continuing to talk with them. If they will
not believe their own literature when it says God rejects all forms of
spiritism and idolatry, then there is very little chance they will be convinced
of any doctrine not taught in their literature. Wish them a ‘good day'
and invite them to return if they ever decide God never approves of spiritism
or idolatry (read Galatians 5:20 and context).
If they choose to leave their church, ask them about John 5:22,23; Acts
7:59 (according to their 1985 edition The Kingdom
Interlinear Translation of the Greek Scriptures footnote, Stephen
was praying to Jesus); John 14:14 (their Kingdom
Interlinear has Jesus here inviting prayer to him);
Galatians 4:6 and Ephesians 3:17; Romans 8:14; 1 John 2:23.